DOUBLE TROUBLE

I got 2 speeding tickets in 2 minutes on the same road and was fined £100 as it was a ‘repeated’ offence…it’s ridiculous

A MAN was left stunned after being fined £100 for getting two speeding tickets in two minutes on the same road.

George Peck, 70, was slapped with the hefty double fine when travelling down the A379 into Plymouth because it was deemed a "repeated" offence.

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George Peck received two speeding tickets in one journeyCredit: PlymouthLive/BPM

And while he does not dispute the fines, he says he feels having two for what he deems is the same offence is a "waste of the courts time".

While driving down the road in his Audi 25, George said that he had not realised that the speed limit had been changed from 40mph to 30mph down the hill on the A379 towards Billacombe roundabout.

His first fine was for driving at 36mph at 2.42pm on August 6 after being caught by a static camera.

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While his second was for the same offence just two minutes later at 2.44pm when he clocked 37mph - although this was based on an average speed.

The summons describes his second offence as maintaining an average speed between the Billacombe roundabout and the Saltram roundabout that exceeded 30mph.

George, who has been driving over 50 years, noted that there is only a single 30mph reminder between these roundabouts.

He explained: "I couldn't believe they wouldn't agree that it was one offence, two minutes apart, surely they would understand that that was the same offence, just two minutes later.

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"I understood that having exceeded the speed limit once I was due for a summons but I couldn't believe I was due for two. It seemed to me the system was wrong if that was happening.

"If somebody gets caught by one, they're almost certainly going to get caught by the other."

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The 70-year-old claims that his "misread the speed limit" and wasn't going deliberately faster than he should.

George continued: "I thought this must be happening to other people as well. I thought well these cameras are automatic so I can't be the only person this has happened to because if you misread the speed limit, which I did, I wasn't deliberately going faster than I should have done, I just thought it was a 40mph limit.

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"I'm not going to change two minutes later unless there's a sign to say 30mph."

George explained that the road safety team made the point that they were technically two different roads - Elburton Road and Billacombe Road - hence the two offences.

However, he disputes this as in both his summons letters, the road is just written as the A379 with the two roads being separated only by a small roundabout.

George believes that they should either have a multiple static speed camera or one set of average speed cameras on the road rather than both as "that will just cause problems".

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He added: "I just think it's a great pity when we're suppose to, and want to, support the police and their efforts, they can't show a little bit of common sense when dealing with what is a relatively minor offence.

"I can't believe it does anything except rub people's backs up the wrong way."

Cops said that the fines were due to the average camera locations using two systems in the same stretch of road but are still deemed separate locations - thus one journey can see drivers "caught" twice.

A police spokesperson from the Devon and Cornwall Police's Road Safety Team said that because of the roundabout, you can and will get recorded and reported for speeding on both average speed systems.

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"Two systems means two speeding offences," they said.

The spokesperson added: "Average speed systems are an excellent road safety tool, with around 96 percent compliance. 

"The Devon and Cornwall Police Road Safety Team has recently more than doubled the number of speed detection officers, with additional vans and motorbikes to reach more difficult to enforce areas.

"All of this is working towards the Police’s ambition of making Devon and Cornwall an uncomfortable place for drivers who commit offences."

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Devon and Cornwall Police also added any road user who receives a fine is given information in relation to the alleged offence.

A police spokesperson said: “All road users who receive a fine are given all the information that they need in relation to the alleged offence, including routes to find further information and if necessary, how to appeal.

“Offences against the Road Traffic Act could still result in a court hearing if the road user chooses to appeal.

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"Therefore Devon and Cornwall Police are not able to comment on individual cases as to not to interfere with any possible future hearings or appeal.”

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